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Second Wave of Absolute Poker Refunds Approved

 Second Wave of Absolute Poker Refunds Approved

A month ago, former Absolute Poker (AP) customers who had their funds stolen by the site’s owners when AP disappeared after Black Friday saw the first wave of refunds hit their bank accounts. Those people who did not receive their money but still submitted valid claims should be seeing their money in the near future. The Garden City Group (GCG), the Department of Justice-selected claims administrator, recently announced the second wave of payments has been approved.

The GCG wrote on its site that “within the next few weeks,” all those who submitted approved petitions will be notified via e-mail with the dollar amount they will be receiving plus the method of payment. Instructions will be included on how to submit banking information for electronic transfers.

Those who owe money to the government will also receive their money if their petitions were approved, but they will have money taken out to settle their outstanding debt. From the GCG message:

GCG will also be sending an email notice to certain Petitioners who were approved for payment and were identified as having a delinquent debt qualifying for collection through the Treasury Offset Program. Payments for these Petitioners will be reduced in order to satisfy their debt in part or in whole. To receive the balance of their payment, Petitioners must provide GCG with the information required to complete a Unified Financial Management System Vendor Request Form. Instructions on how to provide this information will be included in the email notice.

The GCG says that this upcoming round of payments will cover about 4,600 former Absolute Poker players and total approximately $ 3.7 million. Compare that to the first wave of payments, which totaled almost $ 33.5 million to 7,400 former customers of Absolute.

It came as a surprise to the poker community when it was announced in April that Absolute Poker and UltimateBet customers would be getting their money back. The two sister sites were already infamous because of ownership-led “super user” cheating scandals and when the sites just dropped off the face of the Earth after Black Friday in April 2011, people just kind of thought, “Figures.”

After the Black Friday indictments, PokerStars settled with the U.S. Department of Justice, paying hundreds of millions of dollars, an amount which included the purchase of rival Full Tilt Poker. PokerStars easily refunded U.S. players whose accounts were closed when PokerStars had to leave the U.S. market. Full Tilt, though, couldn’t pay people back because some of its owners intentionally used player funds to pay themselves (and Full Tilt had money moving through payment processors frozen). Part of PokerStars’ deal involved repaying Full Tilt customers, which took years, but eventually got done.

After the payments were made, there was enough money left over from the Full Tilt process to refund Absolute Poker and UltimateBet players. This process has been much faster, taking just months to get the first payments sent to bank accounts.

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Claims Process for Lost Absolute Poker Funds Begins

 Claims Process for Lost Absolute Poker Funds Begins

Now that the claims process for players’ lost Full Tilt Poker funds is just about over, it’s time for – SURPRISE! – Absolute Poker claims. Seriously (or Cereusly…get it?). Absolute Poker.

Full Tilt Poker naturally got all the headlines after Black Friday as it was an extremely high profile online poker room founded by famous poker players and customers had well over $ 100 million dollars frozen. Absolute Poker was well known in the poker community – it was one of the higher profile U.S.-facing sites and famously was one of two (along with UltimateBet) that had a superuser scandal – but it kind of just disappeared. It may have been that it no longer had the big name pros attached to it, it may have been that after the superuser scandal, people weren’t surprised by more bullshit. Absolute Poker disappeared and that was that. Nobody really thought much of it, aside from players who lost thousands.

And now, suddenly, it looks like former customers of Absolute may be able to get their money back. But where did the money come from? It’s not like Absolute’s executives all of a sudden sat down with the U.S. Department of Justice and cut a check.

Apparently, money that is left over from the Full Tilt Poker claims process will now be used to reimburse Absolute Poker players. From a press release issued by the U.S. Attorney’s Office Southern District of New York:

As alleged in the operative forfeiture complaints and indictments in this case, the three online poker companies, including Absolute Poker, and their principals, conspired with one another, and others, such as payment processors who worked with multiple poker companies, to carry out the offense conduct that served as the basis for the forfeiture of the Forfeited Poker Funds.

Additionally, the Department of Justice has concluded that players of Absolute Poker who were unable to recover their funds from Absolute Poker are similarly situated to the eligible victims of Full Tilt Poker, in that Absolute Poker, like Full Tilt Poker, did not maintain funds sufficient to repay all of its players.

Accordingly, remaining Forfeited Poker Funds will be used to fund a claims process for eligible Absolute Poker victims.

The process for players to claim the funds should be very similar to that of Full Tilt Poker. Former Absolute customers can go to the site the Garden City Group has setup,, and click on the link to file a petition. Customers then either need a petition number and control number from an e-mail sent by the GCG or, if that e-mail never arrived, the info needed is player ID, last name, and Absolute Poker e-mail address.

As far as how much money players should expect, the GCG says:

It has been determined that the calculation formula to be used for the Petition for Remission process will be based on players’ last known account balance with Absolute Poker (the “Account Balance”). Note that an alternative calculation methodology will be applied to players who have been designated as “Affiliates” of Absolute Poker and to professional players. Account balances from online poker sites other than Absolute Poker are not included in this remission process. Petitioners must also meet all other requirements outlined in 28 C.F.R. § 9.8 to be considered eligible for remission.

If the forfeited funds available for distribution equal or exceed the aggregate Account Balances for all eligible Petitioners, each eligible Petitioner with an approved claim will receive the entirety of his or her Account Balance or approved loss amount. If the aggregate Account Balances for all eligible Petitioners exceed the funds available for distribution, payments shall be made to eligible Petitioners on a pro rata basis.

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